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		<title>By: Karen Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still using paper at my work also.  I would love to see your file to see if we could make it work also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still using paper at my work also.  I would love to see your file to see if we could make it work also.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Hunt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We recently implemented Libstats, a free (GPL) program written at the University of Wisconsin.  

Live demo, downloads and more info at: http://www.wendt.wisc.edu/projects/systems/libstats/index.do</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We recently implemented Libstats, a free (GPL) program written at the University of Wisconsin.  </p>
<p>Live demo, downloads and more info at: <a href="http://www.wendt.wisc.edu/projects/systems/libstats/index.do" rel="nofollow">http://www.wendt.wisc.edu/projects/systems/libstats/index.do</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Pantaleon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Pantaleon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Answering reference inquiries is the heart of reference work.... this has always been my work motto.........

...Recording reference questions was i a forgotten ordeal here in our library. So when my boss assigned me as the new reference librarian i see to it that recording stats. for such will be a daily routine. i combined the previews recording method(recording the paraphrased form of the inquiry(Ready ref. and Reaseach inquiries only) in a 3x5 slip, which are filed according to subject in a filing tray)and the method i have devised(reference logbook which can generate  stats such as type of transaction, patron category, subject category of the inquiry and the prescribed answer for the inquiry) to gather ref. data.
i really find a hard time maintaing a qualitative ref stats because of the following : (1.)the method is very meticolous for they are all paper based, (2)the whole reference stat recording idea seemed to be an alien task for the reliever librarians and (3)finally students/faculty members seemed to have no idea on what the reference section is all about. For the 2nd and 3rd problems i guess Public relations/information campaign about reference work is all i need for them to be eliminated. The one i really find difficult to solve is the 1st difficulty (stat maintence) im planning to develop an access database solely for such an ordeal.. however creating one is indeed a painful task especial when ur not a trained database programmer.....can someone  from the information science profession help me regarding this matter......Thank you!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Answering reference inquiries is the heart of reference work&#8230;. this has always been my work motto&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;Recording reference questions was i a forgotten ordeal here in our library. So when my boss assigned me as the new reference librarian i see to it that recording stats. for such will be a daily routine. i combined the previews recording method(recording the paraphrased form of the inquiry(Ready ref. and Reaseach inquiries only) in a 3&#215;5 slip, which are filed according to subject in a filing tray)and the method i have devised(reference logbook which can generate  stats such as type of transaction, patron category, subject category of the inquiry and the prescribed answer for the inquiry) to gather ref. data.<br />
i really find a hard time maintaing a qualitative ref stats because of the following : (1.)the method is very meticolous for they are all paper based, (2)the whole reference stat recording idea seemed to be an alien task for the reliever librarians and (3)finally students/faculty members seemed to have no idea on what the reference section is all about. For the 2nd and 3rd problems i guess Public relations/information campaign about reference work is all i need for them to be eliminated. The one i really find difficult to solve is the 1st difficulty (stat maintence) im planning to develop an access database solely for such an ordeal.. however creating one is indeed a painful task especial when ur not a trained database programmer&#8230;..can someone  from the information science profession help me regarding this matter&#8230;&#8230;Thank you!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Beccaria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Beccaria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just started in Sept. as a systems librarian at my college library and they previously used paper\pencil. At our library we collect data for a week&#039;s worth of reference stats. I wasn&#039;t too keen on collecting the paper for this information so I made a web form and tied it to an Access database. I then wrote a script to pull the data out into an excel spreadsheet, all nice and pretty. We collected info on time, type of transaction (directional, reference, holdings check, technology), patron type (public, student, faculty staff), method of contact (email, phone, in person, mail), and time spent on the question. 

I told librarians that they could record their answers on paper (and provided forms for them) but told them that the data needed to be entered online at some point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just started in Sept. as a systems librarian at my college library and they previously used paper\pencil. At our library we collect data for a week&#8217;s worth of reference stats. I wasn&#8217;t too keen on collecting the paper for this information so I made a web form and tied it to an Access database. I then wrote a script to pull the data out into an excel spreadsheet, all nice and pretty. We collected info on time, type of transaction (directional, reference, holdings check, technology), patron type (public, student, faculty staff), method of contact (email, phone, in person, mail), and time spent on the question. </p>
<p>I told librarians that they could record their answers on paper (and provided forms for them) but told them that the data needed to be entered online at some point.</p>
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		<title>By: Meredith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meredith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2005 16:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re right Fiona that it may be easier to forget to do it online than when you have a clipboard in front of you.  I guess there&#039;s no easy solution.  I&#039;m glad to see that we&#039;re not the only library that still does our stats on paper.

We only record &quot;reference transactions&quot; which does not include directional (&quot;where is learning services&quot;) or technology (&quot;printer doesn&#039;t work&quot;) questions.  We just record whether they were &quot;virtual&quot; (e-mail) or &quot;traditional&quot; (phone and in-person).

I still prefer paper calendars to online ones (mostly because I haven&#039;t found one I love online), so perhaps somethings may just be better suited for the physical world until we get a better computer-based solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re right Fiona that it may be easier to forget to do it online than when you have a clipboard in front of you.  I guess there&#8217;s no easy solution.  I&#8217;m glad to see that we&#8217;re not the only library that still does our stats on paper.</p>
<p>We only record &#8220;reference transactions&#8221; which does not include directional (&#8220;where is learning services&#8221;) or technology (&#8220;printer doesn&#8217;t work&#8221;) questions.  We just record whether they were &#8220;virtual&#8221; (e-mail) or &#8220;traditional&#8221; (phone and in-person).</p>
<p>I still prefer paper calendars to online ones (mostly because I haven&#8217;t found one I love online), so perhaps somethings may just be better suited for the physical world until we get a better computer-based solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Fiona</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fiona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2005 00:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paper.  The last library I worked at trialled Excel and I forgot to do it more often than with paper. There are just certain things that are better for me on paper than on a PC - eg I still run a paper diary. 

We record what resource the question was about (catalogue, web, IT, law, etc), time taken (under 5 mins or over), and referralls to IT, etc. We have boxes for each hour to track busy times. We really should record referencing questions, we get a lot of those.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paper.  The last library I worked at trialled Excel and I forgot to do it more often than with paper. There are just certain things that are better for me on paper than on a PC &#8211; eg I still run a paper diary. </p>
<p>We record what resource the question was about (catalogue, web, IT, law, etc), time taken (under 5 mins or over), and referralls to IT, etc. We have boxes for each hour to track busy times. We really should record referencing questions, we get a lot of those.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paper here.  But I admit I&#039;m not sure where they go at the end of the week...

We record whether the interaction was simple info (&quot;Where is the bathroom?&quot; and &quot;What is my password?&quot; being #2 and #1, respectively) or more full service, and whether it took less than one minute, 1-5, 5-10, or 10+

I&#039;ll have to look into the Excel method.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paper here.  But I admit I&#8217;m not sure where they go at the end of the week&#8230;</p>
<p>We record whether the interaction was simple info (&#8220;Where is the bathroom?&#8221; and &#8220;What is my password?&#8221; being #2 and #1, respectively) or more full service, and whether it took less than one minute, 1-5, 5-10, or 10+</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have to look into the Excel method.</p>
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		<title>By: tangognat</title>
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		<dc:creator>tangognat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We use paper and pencil on randomly selected days, so we don&#039;t take statistics every day.

I&#039;ve worked at a library that used software (not excel, a different type of program) to automate taking stats every day. Excel sounds like it would be a great solution if you don&#039;t want to spend money on extra software. I bet you could do the same type of thing with a from feeding into an access database too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We use paper and pencil on randomly selected days, so we don&#8217;t take statistics every day.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve worked at a library that used software (not excel, a different type of program) to automate taking stats every day. Excel sounds like it would be a great solution if you don&#8217;t want to spend money on extra software. I bet you could do the same type of thing with a from feeding into an access database too.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Francoeur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Francoeur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our library still uses paper and pencil and then some poor soul has to transfer each day&#039;s tally to a spreadsheet. It makes great sense to record it electronically from the start and eliminate a step. I saw Scott&#039;s post yesterday and may contact him to see if he&#039;d share his Excel file with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our library still uses paper and pencil and then some poor soul has to transfer each day&#8217;s tally to a spreadsheet. It makes great sense to record it electronically from the start and eliminate a step. I saw Scott&#8217;s post yesterday and may contact him to see if he&#8217;d share his Excel file with me.</p>
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