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		<title>By: Amanda Goodman &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Materials to Develop a Library Website</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda Goodman &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Materials to Develop a Library Website</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 03:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Farkas, M. (2006, April 15). It’s a wiki wiki wiki wiki world. Retrieved October 15, 2009, from Information Wants To Be Free: http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/2006/04/15/its-a-wiki-wiki-wiki-wiki-world/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Farkas, M. (2006, April 15). It’s a wiki wiki wiki wiki world. Retrieved October 15, 2009, from Information Wants To Be Free: <a href="http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/2006/04/15/its-a-wiki-wiki-wiki-wiki-world/" rel="nofollow">http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/2006/04/15/its-a-wiki-wiki-wiki-wiki-world/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 16:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wiki has been an invaluable resource for myself and many other parents in learning more about autism. As the father of an autistic child, much of my information has been acquired from wiki sources. In my opinion, the Wiki world will soon challenge traditional search engines as the &quot;go-to&quot; resource for information.
-Gary  http://www.autismkey.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wiki has been an invaluable resource for myself and many other parents in learning more about autism. As the father of an autistic child, much of my information has been acquired from wiki sources. In my opinion, the Wiki world will soon challenge traditional search engines as the &#8220;go-to&#8221; resource for information.<br />
-Gary  <a href="http://www.autismkey.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.autismkey.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alice Yucht</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice Yucht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 16:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A specialized wiki can also serve as the kiddie-pool before folks venture into deeper waters. Joyce Valenza&#039;s http://teacherlibrarianwiki.pbwiki.com is one example of a resource for a clearly-defined target audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A specialized wiki can also serve as the kiddie-pool before folks venture into deeper waters. Joyce Valenza&#8217;s <a href="http://teacherlibrarianwiki.pbwiki.com" rel="nofollow">http://teacherlibrarianwiki.pbwiki.com</a> is one example of a resource for a clearly-defined target audience.</p>
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		<title>By: Fiona</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fiona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s a great idea to encourage people to contribute to wikis because although the directory is well-developed it can still be difficult to work out exactly where something new might fit. Although we are nominally the experts at organising information when it comes to creating our own, it can be hard! 

There&#039;s plenty of content that has yet to be wiki-fied that could do with a new home, even my Library Songs page as I am quite tardy with adding new suggestions - http://www.blisspix.net/library/songs.html and I&#039;m sure there are many other lists and collections that could benefit from being added to a wiki too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a great idea to encourage people to contribute to wikis because although the directory is well-developed it can still be difficult to work out exactly where something new might fit. Although we are nominally the experts at organising information when it comes to creating our own, it can be hard! </p>
<p>There&#8217;s plenty of content that has yet to be wiki-fied that could do with a new home, even my Library Songs page as I am quite tardy with adding new suggestions &#8211; <a href="http://www.blisspix.net/library/songs.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.blisspix.net/library/songs.html</a> and I&#8217;m sure there are many other lists and collections that could benefit from being added to a wiki too.</p>
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		<title>By: Meredith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meredith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 01:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with your approach Fiona and I think it&#039;s a great learning experience to create your own wiki and see what happens with it.  I definitely think Library Success would benefit from a link to your site if not some of your content in the future.  I&#039;ve never pushed for people to add content to the wiki (and have never lobbied people with collections to put them here) and this is the first time I&#039;ve even suggested that people put their collections here if they&#039;d like.  It was more about letting people know that the possibility existed than saying that other people shouldn&#039;t have wikis.  It&#039;s like saying &quot;why do people need their own blogs when you can just use LISNews?&quot; ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with your approach Fiona and I think it&#8217;s a great learning experience to create your own wiki and see what happens with it.  I definitely think Library Success would benefit from a link to your site if not some of your content in the future.  I&#8217;ve never pushed for people to add content to the wiki (and have never lobbied people with collections to put them here) and this is the first time I&#8217;ve even suggested that people put their collections here if they&#8217;d like.  It was more about letting people know that the possibility existed than saying that other people shouldn&#8217;t have wikis.  It&#8217;s like saying &#8220;why do people need their own blogs when you can just use LISNews?&#8221; <img src='http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Fiona</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fiona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 00:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for mentioning my wiki Meredith :)

As to the discussion about why someone would start a new wiki instead of adding the content to LISwiki or to the Library Success wiki (both of which I have used and in the case of the latter, contributed to), there&#039;s a couple of reasons, and I think these would hold true for a few subject-specialised wikis: 

1. I wanted to gain experience with wiki set up and administration. I knew how to use and edit them from Library Success and Wikipedia, but admin is another issue.

2. I took a look at other wikis, websites and blogs and thought that if I added the LISauthor content to those other resources, it had the potential to be hard to find within the established directory structures.

3. Some of the things I am talking about, like repositories, there are multiple hosts and versions of (eg - many people add their work to either DLIST, ELIS or both, or their own institutional repository). I think this is a good thing: one goes down, there&#039;s another available. 

Although I have started a new wiki for this topic, there is no reason it cannot be duplicated elsewhere, LOCKSS right? :) All the material is CC licensed so there&#039;s nothing to stop someone that thinks that content fits their wiki to duplicate it themselves. And that&#039;s the same for most wikis. 

I plan to continue to contribute to other wikis (including Library Success and Wikipedia) but running a wiki of my own gives me motivation to contribute more regularly to these types of resources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for mentioning my wiki Meredith <img src='http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As to the discussion about why someone would start a new wiki instead of adding the content to LISwiki or to the Library Success wiki (both of which I have used and in the case of the latter, contributed to), there&#8217;s a couple of reasons, and I think these would hold true for a few subject-specialised wikis: </p>
<p>1. I wanted to gain experience with wiki set up and administration. I knew how to use and edit them from Library Success and Wikipedia, but admin is another issue.</p>
<p>2. I took a look at other wikis, websites and blogs and thought that if I added the LISauthor content to those other resources, it had the potential to be hard to find within the established directory structures.</p>
<p>3. Some of the things I am talking about, like repositories, there are multiple hosts and versions of (eg &#8211; many people add their work to either DLIST, ELIS or both, or their own institutional repository). I think this is a good thing: one goes down, there&#8217;s another available. </p>
<p>Although I have started a new wiki for this topic, there is no reason it cannot be duplicated elsewhere, LOCKSS right? <img src='http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  All the material is CC licensed so there&#8217;s nothing to stop someone that thinks that content fits their wiki to duplicate it themselves. And that&#8217;s the same for most wikis. </p>
<p>I plan to continue to contribute to other wikis (including Library Success and Wikipedia) but running a wiki of my own gives me motivation to contribute more regularly to these types of resources.</p>
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		<title>By: Meredith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meredith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all... I would not say that Library Success and the LISWiki are trying to accomplish the same thing.  The LISWiki is a library science encyclopedia and the Library Success Wiki is a community for the collection of best practices to improve the profession.

And, Blake, I&#039;d already created Library Success in late June and was adding content to it when John contacted me about his wiki.  I had spoken with quite a few people at ALA Annual about creating a wiki to collect best practices and started publicizing it a few days after John publicized his.  I wouldn&#039;t exactly call that me reinventing the wheel.

The reason I did not merge Library Success with LISWiki early on in the development of both wikis is that I wasn&#039;t a fan of his original model.  His wiki didn&#039;t have a particular mission statement or purpose that would compell people to contribute.  The Library Success Wiki did.  And that was something many people have mentioned as being problematic in making a wiki successful -- you need a clear purpose.  And I think John found that to be the case as well since for a long time, he was the only one adding content to the wiki.  

I think they are both excellent resources, but serve different needs.  I don&#039;t see anything wrong with specialized wikis.  I just know from experience that creating and maintaining a wiki can sometimes be a real pain, and that if people want to avoid that and create something within Library Success, they are more than welcome to and I will do anything I can to help.  It may be the case that many people have wanted to create wikis on a certain subject, but didn&#039;t know how and this would give them the opportunity to have a space.  

Specialized wikis build a sense of community.  There are librarians who would never contribute to the wikipedia who would add to a collection of resources for librarians.  Whether that is right or wrong, it is the reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all&#8230; I would not say that Library Success and the LISWiki are trying to accomplish the same thing.  The LISWiki is a library science encyclopedia and the Library Success Wiki is a community for the collection of best practices to improve the profession.</p>
<p>And, Blake, I&#8217;d already created Library Success in late June and was adding content to it when John contacted me about his wiki.  I had spoken with quite a few people at ALA Annual about creating a wiki to collect best practices and started publicizing it a few days after John publicized his.  I wouldn&#8217;t exactly call that me reinventing the wheel.</p>
<p>The reason I did not merge Library Success with LISWiki early on in the development of both wikis is that I wasn&#8217;t a fan of his original model.  His wiki didn&#8217;t have a particular mission statement or purpose that would compell people to contribute.  The Library Success Wiki did.  And that was something many people have mentioned as being problematic in making a wiki successful &#8212; you need a clear purpose.  And I think John found that to be the case as well since for a long time, he was the only one adding content to the wiki.  </p>
<p>I think they are both excellent resources, but serve different needs.  I don&#8217;t see anything wrong with specialized wikis.  I just know from experience that creating and maintaining a wiki can sometimes be a real pain, and that if people want to avoid that and create something within Library Success, they are more than welcome to and I will do anything I can to help.  It may be the case that many people have wanted to create wikis on a certain subject, but didn&#8217;t know how and this would give them the opportunity to have a space.  </p>
<p>Specialized wikis build a sense of community.  There are librarians who would never contribute to the wikipedia who would add to a collection of resources for librarians.  Whether that is right or wrong, it is the reality.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hubbard</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hubbard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 15:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well LISWiki is a specialized wiki itself, and I address some reasons for its existence under &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.liswiki.com/wiki/LISWiki:About&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why not just Wikipedia?&lt;/a&gt; on its about page. As for the niche LIS wikis that are cropping up, I wholeheartedly share the &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lisjobs.com/newsletter/archives/mar06jhubbard.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reinventing the wheel&lt;/a&gt;&quot; sentiments reflected above.

I have offered to collaborate with other library wikis created after LISWiki was launched, and have also tried to reach out to the editors of several &quot;one man directories&quot; out there, but without the best results. Usually, as with the author of the blog directory mentioned here, I just get ignored. And in at least one case so far, the person chose to literally take it with her rather than include it in LISWiki.

I guess it&#039;s just a question of what level of granularity people are comfortable with. There&#039;s a thousand strong links at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.liswiki.com/wiki/Weblogs&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LISWiki&#039;s blogs directory&lt;/a&gt;, however, so I&#039;m not sure why there&#039;s a need for another version, wikified or not. Because everyone can edit them, a big plus of wikis is to avoid such duplicative efforts.

Those concerns aside, I have to applaud the act of sharing information, since it still feels like the &quot;lurker&quot; mentality is a larger threat to spreading information, and not having it &quot;die trapped inside of us.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well LISWiki is a specialized wiki itself, and I address some reasons for its existence under <a href="http://www.liswiki.com/wiki/LISWiki:About" rel="nofollow">Why not just Wikipedia?</a> on its about page. As for the niche LIS wikis that are cropping up, I wholeheartedly share the &#8220;<a href="http://www.lisjobs.com/newsletter/archives/mar06jhubbard.htm" rel="nofollow">reinventing the wheel</a>&#8221; sentiments reflected above.</p>
<p>I have offered to collaborate with other library wikis created after LISWiki was launched, and have also tried to reach out to the editors of several &#8220;one man directories&#8221; out there, but without the best results. Usually, as with the author of the blog directory mentioned here, I just get ignored. And in at least one case so far, the person chose to literally take it with her rather than include it in LISWiki.</p>
<p>I guess it&#8217;s just a question of what level of granularity people are comfortable with. There&#8217;s a thousand strong links at <a href="http://www.liswiki.com/wiki/Weblogs" rel="nofollow">LISWiki&#8217;s blogs directory</a>, however, so I&#8217;m not sure why there&#8217;s a need for another version, wikified or not. Because everyone can edit them, a big plus of wikis is to avoid such duplicative efforts.</p>
<p>Those concerns aside, I have to applaud the act of sharing information, since it still feels like the &#8220;lurker&#8221; mentality is a larger threat to spreading information, and not having it &#8220;die trapped inside of us.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 14:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but you&#039;re all reinventing the wheel, liswiki.com was around first, why is it we need specialized wikis at all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but you&#8217;re all reinventing the wheel, liswiki.com was around first, why is it we need specialized wikis at all?</p>
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