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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/2007/05/24/couldnt-have-said-it-better/comment-page-1/#comment-178498</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 20:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I consider someone to be a friend if I have a friendly relationship with them, whether it be IRL or online. For example, I consider you to be a &quot;friend&quot; type person, even though we&#039;ve never met in person and have had only minimal interaction online. I&#039;d probably buy you a drink if I met you at a conference, so that qualifies you for being &quot;friended&quot; by me on a social network.

Occasionally, I&#039;ll friend people I don&#039;t know and have no relationship with at all.  Mainly it&#039;s because they seem like people I&#039;d like to get to know at some point.  Most of the time, I reject friend requests if I don&#039;t know the person, and I feel no guilt about it whatsoever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider someone to be a friend if I have a friendly relationship with them, whether it be IRL or online. For example, I consider you to be a &#8220;friend&#8221; type person, even though we&#8217;ve never met in person and have had only minimal interaction online. I&#8217;d probably buy you a drink if I met you at a conference, so that qualifies you for being &#8220;friended&#8221; by me on a social network.</p>
<p>Occasionally, I&#8217;ll friend people I don&#8217;t know and have no relationship with at all.  Mainly it&#8217;s because they seem like people I&#8217;d like to get to know at some point.  Most of the time, I reject friend requests if I don&#8217;t know the person, and I feel no guilt about it whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>By: Christy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 22:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve lurked for a bit here, but I thought I&#039;d weigh in on this one. 

I&#039;ve used LiveJournal since I was in college, for about 5 years now, and this has been an everpresent question in that circle. What does it mean if you don&#039;t friend someone, if you decided you don&#039;t want that person friended anymore and defriend them. It has caused far more drama than it should. 

While I&#039;m not a bit fan of SixApart (the company that bought out LiveJournal), one of the things they did right with Vox - their new social networking/blogging platform, was making connecting/friending/privacy options very transparent. There are three levels, family, friends, &amp; neighbourhood. Consequently, I add everyone who adds me to my neighbourhood, add only people I know fairly well to my friends, and have a family level for people who I&#039;m really close to. Posts, photos, anything you upload can be designated viewable only to that group, and you can easily read any of those groups making the sorting through posts obsolete. 

LiveJournal allows the same sort of thing, albeit a bit more clunkily, with friends filters. 

With FaceBook, MySpace, Flicrk, etc, I tend to add only people I know, or I choose to allow them a limited profile as opposed to a full profile. Even with LiveJournal, I add only those people whose posts I&#039;m interested in reading as otherwise I&#039;m wading through a lot of extraneous posts. I no longer feel badly about this practice and often in my profile I state up front what my &#039;friending&#039; policy is. So far I&#039;ve avoided any drama on the topic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve lurked for a bit here, but I thought I&#8217;d weigh in on this one. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve used LiveJournal since I was in college, for about 5 years now, and this has been an everpresent question in that circle. What does it mean if you don&#8217;t friend someone, if you decided you don&#8217;t want that person friended anymore and defriend them. It has caused far more drama than it should. </p>
<p>While I&#8217;m not a bit fan of SixApart (the company that bought out LiveJournal), one of the things they did right with Vox &#8211; their new social networking/blogging platform, was making connecting/friending/privacy options very transparent. There are three levels, family, friends, &amp; neighbourhood. Consequently, I add everyone who adds me to my neighbourhood, add only people I know fairly well to my friends, and have a family level for people who I&#8217;m really close to. Posts, photos, anything you upload can be designated viewable only to that group, and you can easily read any of those groups making the sorting through posts obsolete. </p>
<p>LiveJournal allows the same sort of thing, albeit a bit more clunkily, with friends filters. </p>
<p>With FaceBook, MySpace, Flicrk, etc, I tend to add only people I know, or I choose to allow them a limited profile as opposed to a full profile. Even with LiveJournal, I add only those people whose posts I&#8217;m interested in reading as otherwise I&#8217;m wading through a lot of extraneous posts. I no longer feel badly about this practice and often in my profile I state up front what my &#8216;friending&#8217; policy is. So far I&#8217;ve avoided any drama on the topic!</p>
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		<title>By: Meredith Farkas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meredith Farkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 20:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG, that is too funny, Dave! I love it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG, that is too funny, Dave! I love it!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Hook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Hook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 19:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From The Onion: 

MySpace Outage Leaves Millions Friendless:
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/myspace_outage_leaves_millions</description>
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<p>MySpace Outage Leaves Millions Friendless:<br />
<a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/news/myspace_outage_leaves_millions" rel="nofollow">http://www.theonion.com/content/news/myspace_outage_leaves_millions</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rudy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 19:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meredith, it&#039;s not just you wondering about this (although I wonder about it from the not-high-profile side of things)! There are several blogs I read frequently (yours included), and those bloggers say things I think about. When I join a SN site, I often see those bloggers among the identities in my real world friends&#039; buddy lists (which adds in the six degrees issue). And, I&#039;m curious to hear what use said bloggers will make of the tool... but the friend thing is odd, and. I&#039;ve been trying to figure out how I decide to &#039;friend&quot; LISbloggers, because I have &quot;friended&quot; some, but not others. And it can&#039;t just be based on comments, because I&#039;ve commented here before and I haven&#039;t asked you to befriend me on any of the spaces where I see your name...

I keep thinking about like-mindedness. I&#039;ve stopped blogging, because updating became a chore not an exercise or a pleasure. But I have found a number of like-minded folks out there in the biblioblogosphere (where I don&#039;t pull my weight), and and friending through SN feels like it might be a way to make the acquaintance... which raises the question of &#039;meeting new friends&#039; in SN space...

see, if i kept up my blog, I could have posted this comment there, and elaborated. and then people would follow the trackback to read me and want to befriend me on Twitter and Facebook and.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meredith, it&#8217;s not just you wondering about this (although I wonder about it from the not-high-profile side of things)! There are several blogs I read frequently (yours included), and those bloggers say things I think about. When I join a SN site, I often see those bloggers among the identities in my real world friends&#8217; buddy lists (which adds in the six degrees issue). And, I&#8217;m curious to hear what use said bloggers will make of the tool&#8230; but the friend thing is odd, and. I&#8217;ve been trying to figure out how I decide to &#8216;friend&#8221; LISbloggers, because I have &#8220;friended&#8221; some, but not others. And it can&#8217;t just be based on comments, because I&#8217;ve commented here before and I haven&#8217;t asked you to befriend me on any of the spaces where I see your name&#8230;</p>
<p>I keep thinking about like-mindedness. I&#8217;ve stopped blogging, because updating became a chore not an exercise or a pleasure. But I have found a number of like-minded folks out there in the biblioblogosphere (where I don&#8217;t pull my weight), and and friending through SN feels like it might be a way to make the acquaintance&#8230; which raises the question of &#8216;meeting new friends&#8217; in SN space&#8230;</p>
<p>see, if i kept up my blog, I could have posted this comment there, and elaborated. and then people would follow the trackback to read me and want to befriend me on Twitter and Facebook and&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 15:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Phil&#039;s definition = &quot;potential contact&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Phil&#8217;s definition = &#8220;potential contact&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Hook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Hook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 14:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also believe that social networks are about creating networks, and the term &#039;friend&#039; is perhaps not the best choice.

I like the feature in facebook that allows you to fine tune what updates you get to see of your friends - i.e. since Facebook doesn&#039;t show you absolutely every update that happens in your friends&#039; groups, you can set your preferences so that you see more status updates and less group joinings, for example.  I haven&#039;t tried it myself, but I believe that you can fine tune it so that updates from certain people are shown more than from others.  The nice thing about the Facebook feature is that others don&#039;t get to see if you&#039;ve adjusted their settings, so you don&#039;t have to worry about offending anyone.

It would be beneficial if other social networking applications had similar features, so that you could still establish a network of contacts, yet also use the applications to keep up on your closer friends without being flooded with updates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also believe that social networks are about creating networks, and the term &#8216;friend&#8217; is perhaps not the best choice.</p>
<p>I like the feature in facebook that allows you to fine tune what updates you get to see of your friends &#8211; i.e. since Facebook doesn&#8217;t show you absolutely every update that happens in your friends&#8217; groups, you can set your preferences so that you see more status updates and less group joinings, for example.  I haven&#8217;t tried it myself, but I believe that you can fine tune it so that updates from certain people are shown more than from others.  The nice thing about the Facebook feature is that others don&#8217;t get to see if you&#8217;ve adjusted their settings, so you don&#8217;t have to worry about offending anyone.</p>
<p>It would be beneficial if other social networking applications had similar features, so that you could still establish a network of contacts, yet also use the applications to keep up on your closer friends without being flooded with updates.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Bradley</title>
		<link>http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/2007/05/24/couldnt-have-said-it-better/comment-page-1/#comment-176339</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 09:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a problem here is in the terminology. &#039;Friend&#039; has very specific implications and connotations for me and they are really not appropriate within the context of online systems. I&#039;ve got lots of people that I know, either online or in &#039;the real world&#039;, and they&#039;re not all friends. Some are &#039;colleagues&#039; &#039;acquaintances&#039; and so on. But not friends. 

I had a problem with people adding me as a friend when I started out using these systems, but to be honest I don&#039;t really care now. I&#039;ve done a mental global delete with &#039;friend&#039; and replaced with &#039;potential contact&#039; and that works much better for me. I have no problem with the idea that someone might want to stay in touch, to read what I write and so on, because I&#039;m doing the exact self same thing when I read their weblogs- but that doesn&#039;t make me their friend or them mine, but as a contact - yes, they&#039;re exactly that. 

Once you can make that leap the whole thing becomes easier to deal with. Ideally I&#039;d like a Flickr type solution where I can have contacts, friends and family, all with different levels of accessibility, which much more closely relates to a real life situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a problem here is in the terminology. &#8216;Friend&#8217; has very specific implications and connotations for me and they are really not appropriate within the context of online systems. I&#8217;ve got lots of people that I know, either online or in &#8216;the real world&#8217;, and they&#8217;re not all friends. Some are &#8216;colleagues&#8217; &#8216;acquaintances&#8217; and so on. But not friends. </p>
<p>I had a problem with people adding me as a friend when I started out using these systems, but to be honest I don&#8217;t really care now. I&#8217;ve done a mental global delete with &#8216;friend&#8217; and replaced with &#8216;potential contact&#8217; and that works much better for me. I have no problem with the idea that someone might want to stay in touch, to read what I write and so on, because I&#8217;m doing the exact self same thing when I read their weblogs- but that doesn&#8217;t make me their friend or them mine, but as a contact &#8211; yes, they&#8217;re exactly that. </p>
<p>Once you can make that leap the whole thing becomes easier to deal with. Ideally I&#8217;d like a Flickr type solution where I can have contacts, friends and family, all with different levels of accessibility, which much more closely relates to a real life situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Meg Kribble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meg Kribble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 04:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flickr was my first big social networking site, and as I&#039;ve gotten into the others, I&#039;ve been frustrated by the single level of contact in so many of them.  Someone is either a friend, or not a contact at all.  With its inclusion of family as a contact category, Flickr is my ideal.

It&#039;s interesting that a number of you have mentioned being very open with friendings in Ning/Library 2.0!  I friended and affirmed requests from anyone whom I knew IRL, had networked with, read their blog, met in Second Life, etc..  Yet even after that, it seemed everyone in the network was requesting friendship, which seemed redundant. Having said this out loud, I now need to be honest and go reject all those lingering friend requests so they stop haunting me when I log in. :)

Twitter is one where it is disappointing when the contact/friend-ing isn&#039;t reciprocated.  I&#039;ve found myself starting to reply to people who haven&#039;t reciprocated my contact, then realizing they won&#039;t read it anyway, so what&#039;s the point?  Still, I thought I&#039;d have closed my postings to friends only by now, but I&#039;ve been friended by some people whose twittering I enjoy and I wouldn&#039;t have known of otherwise, so I&#039;m still open.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flickr was my first big social networking site, and as I&#8217;ve gotten into the others, I&#8217;ve been frustrated by the single level of contact in so many of them.  Someone is either a friend, or not a contact at all.  With its inclusion of family as a contact category, Flickr is my ideal.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting that a number of you have mentioned being very open with friendings in Ning/Library 2.0!  I friended and affirmed requests from anyone whom I knew IRL, had networked with, read their blog, met in Second Life, etc..  Yet even after that, it seemed everyone in the network was requesting friendship, which seemed redundant. Having said this out loud, I now need to be honest and go reject all those lingering friend requests so they stop haunting me when I log in. <img src='http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Twitter is one where it is disappointing when the contact/friend-ing isn&#8217;t reciprocated.  I&#8217;ve found myself starting to reply to people who haven&#8217;t reciprocated my contact, then realizing they won&#8217;t read it anyway, so what&#8217;s the point?  Still, I thought I&#8217;d have closed my postings to friends only by now, but I&#8217;ve been friended by some people whose twittering I enjoy and I wouldn&#8217;t have known of otherwise, so I&#8217;m still open.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Finegan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Finegan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 03:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I have a number of different accounts for my social networking sites. I&#039;ve had a livejournal for about 8 years now, and my friends list there are mostly old friends from a particular friendship circle that I stay in touch with. Similarly, one of my MySpaces is my &quot;personal&quot; MySpace, to whom I make a point of only accepting friends requests from people whom I&#039;ve actually met in person. Then, there&#039;s my &quot;blatant self-promotion&quot; MySpace, that basically anybody can join if they like.

I guess it&#039;s about customising your &quot;online communities&quot;, and having different levels of acquaintance. Yes, it&#039;s still a case of categorising people according to how well you&#039;re acquainted, but I think that&#039;s okay. It&#039;s not like you&#039;re inviting them over to your house for dinner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I have a number of different accounts for my social networking sites. I&#8217;ve had a livejournal for about 8 years now, and my friends list there are mostly old friends from a particular friendship circle that I stay in touch with. Similarly, one of my MySpaces is my &#8220;personal&#8221; MySpace, to whom I make a point of only accepting friends requests from people whom I&#8217;ve actually met in person. Then, there&#8217;s my &#8220;blatant self-promotion&#8221; MySpace, that basically anybody can join if they like.</p>
<p>I guess it&#8217;s about customising your &#8220;online communities&#8221;, and having different levels of acquaintance. Yes, it&#8217;s still a case of categorising people according to how well you&#8217;re acquainted, but I think that&#8217;s okay. It&#8217;s not like you&#8217;re inviting them over to your house for dinner.</p>
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