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		<title>By: Joshua L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 18:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...ideas such as intelligent design, biblical literalism and denial of global warming. To me, that is a result of people uncritically accepting the word of the people they respect as experts ...and not listening to more than one channel of information.&quot;  Unfortunately I find myself in one or more of these categories and hear that I uncritically accept the words of experts.  I would say that is true in some cases but no more than for others reading this post.  I work in an environment where I regularly encounter differing views and must critically deal with each of them in order to face myself the next day.  Your post is one of those differing views.  I hope and believe there are intelligent, critical, and honest people who believe some of the above mentioned ideas. Admittedly a little self serving but I hope and work hard to be one of them :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;ideas such as intelligent design, biblical literalism and denial of global warming. To me, that is a result of people uncritically accepting the word of the people they respect as experts &#8230;and not listening to more than one channel of information.&#8221;  Unfortunately I find myself in one or more of these categories and hear that I uncritically accept the words of experts.  I would say that is true in some cases but no more than for others reading this post.  I work in an environment where I regularly encounter differing views and must critically deal with each of them in order to face myself the next day.  Your post is one of those differing views.  I hope and believe there are intelligent, critical, and honest people who believe some of the above mentioned ideas. Admittedly a little self serving but I hope and work hard to be one of them <img src='http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jennimi</title>
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		<dc:creator>jennimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meredith, sorry for being late on this... still catching up from last week.  This piece is not only a superb response to Gorman&#039;s blog posts, but a wonderful articulation of what we mean when we say information literacy!  Recently I was interviewed by a college that tasked me to &quot;critique Wikipedia.&quot;  Right there, I knew something was up.... I got an uncomfortable feeling just from that request.  I mean, I personally have read biased hogwash in so-called scholarly journals... thank goodness I have trained myself to spot that?

As you might guess, I didn&#039;t single out Wikipedia in my critique, but discussed things like peer-review, credentials, documentation of edits, biased tone (which yes, CAN appear in works by experts!) and the reasons WHY we talk about these things with students.  I didn&#039;t get the job, thank goodness.  I&#039;m really about keeping the discussions more &quot;meta&quot; than picking on a single tool or source.  I just wish I had had this essay to quote in my discussion (yes, I do believe it is appropriate to quote respected bloggers, especially when they have also published &quot;traditionally&quot;).  I will be tagging this post &quot;information_literacy&quot; in my del.icio.us.  :)  

Thank you, and thank you for the time and thoughtfulness you regularly put into these essays. 

@Joshua: yup, that&#039;s the feeling sometimes I get, too. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meredith, sorry for being late on this&#8230; still catching up from last week.  This piece is not only a superb response to Gorman&#8217;s blog posts, but a wonderful articulation of what we mean when we say information literacy!  Recently I was interviewed by a college that tasked me to &#8220;critique Wikipedia.&#8221;  Right there, I knew something was up&#8230;. I got an uncomfortable feeling just from that request.  I mean, I personally have read biased hogwash in so-called scholarly journals&#8230; thank goodness I have trained myself to spot that?</p>
<p>As you might guess, I didn&#8217;t single out Wikipedia in my critique, but discussed things like peer-review, credentials, documentation of edits, biased tone (which yes, CAN appear in works by experts!) and the reasons WHY we talk about these things with students.  I didn&#8217;t get the job, thank goodness.  I&#8217;m really about keeping the discussions more &#8220;meta&#8221; than picking on a single tool or source.  I just wish I had had this essay to quote in my discussion (yes, I do believe it is appropriate to quote respected bloggers, especially when they have also published &#8220;traditionally&#8221;).  I will be tagging this post &#8220;information_literacy&#8221; in my del.icio.us.  <img src='http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>Thank you, and thank you for the time and thoughtfulness you regularly put into these essays. </p>
<p>@Joshua: yup, that&#8217;s the feeling sometimes I get, too. <img src='http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rachael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;

Amen! Thanks so much for this post.</description>
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<p>Amen! Thanks so much for this post.</p>
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		<title>By: The Letter Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Letter Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 02:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Trusting the&#160;experts...&lt;/strong&gt;

Many bloggers in the past few days have been writing about Michael Gorman&#8217;s two recent pieces on the Encyclopedia Britannica blog (Web 2.0: The Sleep of Reason, Part I and Part II). In these two rather incoherent posts, Gorman, who is perhaps bes...</description>
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<p>Many bloggers in the past few days have been writing about Michael Gorman&#8217;s two recent pieces on the Encyclopedia Britannica blog (Web 2.0: The Sleep of Reason, Part I and Part II). In these two rather incoherent posts, Gorman, who is perhaps bes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: joshua m. neff</title>
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		<dc:creator>joshua m. neff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was one of my favorite lines, too, Steve. It&#039;s like Gorman stood up and said, &quot;I&#039;m still upset about the Sixties, dammit! Everyone was getting laid except me!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was one of my favorite lines, too, Steve. It&#8217;s like Gorman stood up and said, &#8220;I&#8217;m still upset about the Sixties, dammit! Everyone was getting laid except me!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lawson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Lawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 22:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have been linked to from &lt;a href=&quot;http://chronicle.com/wiredcampus/article/2156/everyones-tripping-and-its-all-free&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the Chronicle&#039;s Wired Campus blog&lt;/a&gt;.

The line they excerpt for their post title, &quot;everyone&#039;s tripping and it&#039;s all free&quot; was one of my favorites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have been linked to from <a href="http://chronicle.com/wiredcampus/article/2156/everyones-tripping-and-its-all-free" rel="nofollow">the Chronicle&#8217;s Wired Campus blog</a>.</p>
<p>The line they excerpt for their post title, &#8220;everyone&#8217;s tripping and it&#8217;s all free&#8221; was one of my favorites.</p>
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		<title>By: John Connell</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Connell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 11:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Cult of the Expert, it seems, is just as suspect as the Cult of the Amateur - just as suspect as any cult, really!  Your balanced, reasonable response to the outrageous imbalance in Gorman&#039;s piece (and in &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.britannica.com/blog/main/2007/06/the-answer-to-web-20-political-activism/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Andrew Keen&#039;s input&lt;/a&gt; too) is good to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Cult of the Expert, it seems, is just as suspect as the Cult of the Amateur &#8211; just as suspect as any cult, really!  Your balanced, reasonable response to the outrageous imbalance in Gorman&#8217;s piece (and in <a href="http://blogs.britannica.com/blog/main/2007/06/the-answer-to-web-20-political-activism/" rel="nofollow">Andrew Keen&#8217;s input</a> too) is good to see.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Teeter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Teeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 03:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with almost all of what you&#039;ve said, Meredith.  

However, the Goldhagen incident was perhaps not the best example.  (I don&#039;t know all the facts of the case, so I will respect your authority and assume you are representing it fairly!)  Yes, it proves that experts make mistakes and use sloppy methodology.  But how was the mistake corrected?  Not by people on the Internet merely questioning authority.  And certainly not by amateurs on Wikipedia.  (Yes, I know that&#039;s not what you&#039;re arguing, but some take the anti-expert mentality to extremes.)

The mistake was corrected by trained historians painstakingly going through the available evidence.

Questioning authority is a good thing, but if that&#039;s all you do, you&#039;ll become a cynic who believes/trusts/knows nothing.  

Critical thinking is better.  For most of us, in most subject areas, that&#039;s as far as we can go.  I don&#039;t know -- for sure -- how the war in Iraq is going.  All I can do is listen to people who have been there (reporters, military, maybe some politicians who get good intelligence -- if there is such as thing), consider what axes they have to grind, and decide for myself what to believe.

Best of all is the trained person examining the evidence using sound methodology.  Most of us don&#039;t have the time, the opportunity, or the training to do that ourselves.  We should have a measure of respect for those who do, but never leave your critical thinking skills at home.

(Don&#039;t sell yourself short.  I think there&#039;s a reason people wanted to take your class and your publisher wanted to publish your book.  Yes, people learned from the students, but I&#039;ll bet your name on  the class really sold it.  You&#039;re known as someone who&#039;s thought a lot about social software in libraries, used it, written about it.  I&#039;m sorry to say it, but I think that makes you an expert.  No, we don&#039;t think you have &quot;all the answers,&quot; but a lot of people respect your authority on this subject, because you&#039;ve earned it.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with almost all of what you&#8217;ve said, Meredith.  </p>
<p>However, the Goldhagen incident was perhaps not the best example.  (I don&#8217;t know all the facts of the case, so I will respect your authority and assume you are representing it fairly!)  Yes, it proves that experts make mistakes and use sloppy methodology.  But how was the mistake corrected?  Not by people on the Internet merely questioning authority.  And certainly not by amateurs on Wikipedia.  (Yes, I know that&#8217;s not what you&#8217;re arguing, but some take the anti-expert mentality to extremes.)</p>
<p>The mistake was corrected by trained historians painstakingly going through the available evidence.</p>
<p>Questioning authority is a good thing, but if that&#8217;s all you do, you&#8217;ll become a cynic who believes/trusts/knows nothing.  </p>
<p>Critical thinking is better.  For most of us, in most subject areas, that&#8217;s as far as we can go.  I don&#8217;t know &#8212; for sure &#8212; how the war in Iraq is going.  All I can do is listen to people who have been there (reporters, military, maybe some politicians who get good intelligence &#8212; if there is such as thing), consider what axes they have to grind, and decide for myself what to believe.</p>
<p>Best of all is the trained person examining the evidence using sound methodology.  Most of us don&#8217;t have the time, the opportunity, or the training to do that ourselves.  We should have a measure of respect for those who do, but never leave your critical thinking skills at home.</p>
<p>(Don&#8217;t sell yourself short.  I think there&#8217;s a reason people wanted to take your class and your publisher wanted to publish your book.  Yes, people learned from the students, but I&#8217;ll bet your name on  the class really sold it.  You&#8217;re known as someone who&#8217;s thought a lot about social software in libraries, used it, written about it.  I&#8217;m sorry to say it, but I think that makes you an expert.  No, we don&#8217;t think you have &#8220;all the answers,&#8221; but a lot of people respect your authority on this subject, because you&#8217;ve earned it.)</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D&#039;ya know...that Socrates fella used to sit in forums all day long and talk about ideas.  Then someone wrote &#039;em all down and today folks think he&#039;s some kinda expert or somethin&#039;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D&#8217;ya know&#8230;that Socrates fella used to sit in forums all day long and talk about ideas.  Then someone wrote &#8216;em all down and today folks think he&#8217;s some kinda expert or somethin&#8217;!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Clarke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But then, what else could one expect from the guardians of the Britannica?  It&#039;s the kind of thinking that keeps the depressing treadmill of &quot;normative thinking-funding-publish-tenure&quot; grinding on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But then, what else could one expect from the guardians of the Britannica?  It&#8217;s the kind of thinking that keeps the depressing treadmill of &#8220;normative thinking-funding-publish-tenure&#8221; grinding on&#8230;</p>
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