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	<title>Comments on: On not so SWIFT otters and instilling a fear of failure</title>
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		<title>By: Kathleen Gilroy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen Gilroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to thank all of you for your comments about SWIFT.  We are beginning design on the next version and have incorporated some of your ideas and suggestions into how we think about the product.  I have no problem with the tone of the discussion.  It wasn&#039;t always constructive but it was honest.  My only criticism of how this played out was in how the suggestion of bad faith, profiteering, or malice in the intentions behind the product design.  We genuinely want to develop something that creates real value in how people share information and connections around an event.  SWIFT v1 certainly didn&#039;t achieve that goal.  But we are working hard to make sure SWIFT v2 does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to thank all of you for your comments about SWIFT.  We are beginning design on the next version and have incorporated some of your ideas and suggestions into how we think about the product.  I have no problem with the tone of the discussion.  It wasn&#8217;t always constructive but it was honest.  My only criticism of how this played out was in how the suggestion of bad faith, profiteering, or malice in the intentions behind the product design.  We genuinely want to develop something that creates real value in how people share information and connections around an event.  SWIFT v1 certainly didn&#8217;t achieve that goal.  But we are working hard to make sure SWIFT v2 does.</p>
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		<title>By: Meredith Farkas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meredith Farkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 13:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ryan, I have to disagree with you on this one. I think you&#039;re setting up a false dichotomy. &quot;Honest angry criticism&quot; and &quot;polite sweet waving&quot; aren&#039;t the only options when it comes to offering advice and/or criticism. In high school, I was always known as the person people wanted to read their writing, because they knew I&#039;d be honest about it, even when it sucked. I wasn&#039;t mean about it, but I&#039;d tell them where I felt they went wrong and where they could improve. You can criticize without sounding angry and still be effective.

And really, there were a number of people (not you) who talked about that session two days before who were already out for blood then. I&#039;d never had such a negative reaction to SWIFT before the conference. It sucks. I don&#039;t use it. But I did tell Kathleen some of the things I saw that were wrong with it and in a way that I didn&#039;t think sounded angry (nor wishy washy either). I know that when someone talks to me the way people were shouting at her, I shut down. I don&#039;t respond well to anger and I literally will not hear what they say. When someone offers me constructive criticism or advice, I will listen. I will take it to heart.

And I agree with you that the comments were good advice, but they didn&#039;t have to be delivered in such an angry tone. If I&#039;d been up there, I wouldn&#039;t have heard it. I&#039;d just have gone to the place I go when I&#039;m being yelled at. But maybe that&#039;s just me. Hopefully she heard the criticism and took it to heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ryan, I have to disagree with you on this one. I think you&#8217;re setting up a false dichotomy. &#8220;Honest angry criticism&#8221; and &#8220;polite sweet waving&#8221; aren&#8217;t the only options when it comes to offering advice and/or criticism. In high school, I was always known as the person people wanted to read their writing, because they knew I&#8217;d be honest about it, even when it sucked. I wasn&#8217;t mean about it, but I&#8217;d tell them where I felt they went wrong and where they could improve. You can criticize without sounding angry and still be effective.</p>
<p>And really, there were a number of people (not you) who talked about that session two days before who were already out for blood then. I&#8217;d never had such a negative reaction to SWIFT before the conference. It sucks. I don&#8217;t use it. But I did tell Kathleen some of the things I saw that were wrong with it and in a way that I didn&#8217;t think sounded angry (nor wishy washy either). I know that when someone talks to me the way people were shouting at her, I shut down. I don&#8217;t respond well to anger and I literally will not hear what they say. When someone offers me constructive criticism or advice, I will listen. I will take it to heart.</p>
<p>And I agree with you that the comments were good advice, but they didn&#8217;t have to be delivered in such an angry tone. If I&#8217;d been up there, I wouldn&#8217;t have heard it. I&#8217;d just have gone to the place I go when I&#8217;m being yelled at. But maybe that&#8217;s just me. Hopefully she heard the criticism and took it to heart.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 00:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a few people mentioned that they were going into the room thinking positively and were eventually turned off somehow during the course of the discussion.

I went in thinking I had the least to say and ended up sounding the most I angry I suppose.   What I was experiencing was not anger though, but a sense of &quot;let&#039;s cut to the chase here.&quot;   In talking to customers, there&#039;s no excuses.  In the end, I feel I did a favor -- honest angry sounding criticism is always better than polite, sweet waving while you watch someone&#039;s ship go down.   Frankly, I think the discussion at that session was worth alot.   The comments were relevant, succinct, and damn good advice in my view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a few people mentioned that they were going into the room thinking positively and were eventually turned off somehow during the course of the discussion.</p>
<p>I went in thinking I had the least to say and ended up sounding the most I angry I suppose.   What I was experiencing was not anger though, but a sense of &#8220;let&#8217;s cut to the chase here.&#8221;   In talking to customers, there&#8217;s no excuses.  In the end, I feel I did a favor &#8212; honest angry sounding criticism is always better than polite, sweet waving while you watch someone&#8217;s ship go down.   Frankly, I think the discussion at that session was worth alot.   The comments were relevant, succinct, and damn good advice in my view.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindi Trainor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindi Trainor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 02:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also see Jason Griffey&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jasongriffey.net/wp/2008/04/03/my-take-on-swift/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;concise and neutral assessment of Swift&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also see Jason Griffey&#8217;s <a href="http://www.jasongriffey.net/wp/2008/04/03/my-take-on-swift/" rel="nofollow">concise and neutral assessment of Swift</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindi Trainor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindi Trainor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 02:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for this post, Meredith.  I was also frustrated with the session and with the Swift experience, and I think I led off on the wrong foot when it was our turn to speak.  What baffles me is that it felt like the audience--most of whom I knew and respect as well--really did not connect with Kathleen and Jane and what they were trying to tell us about the direction Swift will be taking.

Perhaps a more informal venue, earlier time, or wine and cheese would have helped; it just felt odd.  I stayed after to talk a bit and hope that I conveyed the sentiment that we really do want to help.  There were a few suggestions made at the end that I hope that Otter and ITI--and we, the attendees and presenters--will benefit from.

After thinking about this more, I think that the failures were due to an intersection of unfortunate circumstances:  those who tried it have high expectations for web functionality and low tolerance for failure; we are intensely self-sufficient; we have little time to devote to something that adds no perceived value to what we already do.  As Steve Lawson put it so succinctly, we already are in the habit of aggregating our own information feeds; no one in the room saw the need for a site that would do this for us, given the fact that we&#039;ve already got our routines worked out.  However, a fully-functioning Swift or a product like it might be useful for attendees who don&#039;t have time or inclination to follow their own flickr, delicious or blog post RSS feeds.  The key there will be unveiling the product in just the right way and providing the *right* information to the *right* group of potential users at the *right* time.  ...and we weren&#039;t it, but we&#039;re willing to help.  Honestly, how many other conference planners would have provided this forum for us?

Have to echo that Computers in Libraries and Internet Librarian are the best conferences that I go to.  The content is always fresh, relevant and exciting; nowhere else can I go to connect with so many like minds.  This year&#039;s CiL was simply amazing for me.  Kudos to Jane Dysart and her crew for another stellar event, soup to nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for this post, Meredith.  I was also frustrated with the session and with the Swift experience, and I think I led off on the wrong foot when it was our turn to speak.  What baffles me is that it felt like the audience&#8211;most of whom I knew and respect as well&#8211;really did not connect with Kathleen and Jane and what they were trying to tell us about the direction Swift will be taking.</p>
<p>Perhaps a more informal venue, earlier time, or wine and cheese would have helped; it just felt odd.  I stayed after to talk a bit and hope that I conveyed the sentiment that we really do want to help.  There were a few suggestions made at the end that I hope that Otter and ITI&#8211;and we, the attendees and presenters&#8211;will benefit from.</p>
<p>After thinking about this more, I think that the failures were due to an intersection of unfortunate circumstances:  those who tried it have high expectations for web functionality and low tolerance for failure; we are intensely self-sufficient; we have little time to devote to something that adds no perceived value to what we already do.  As Steve Lawson put it so succinctly, we already are in the habit of aggregating our own information feeds; no one in the room saw the need for a site that would do this for us, given the fact that we&#8217;ve already got our routines worked out.  However, a fully-functioning Swift or a product like it might be useful for attendees who don&#8217;t have time or inclination to follow their own flickr, delicious or blog post RSS feeds.  The key there will be unveiling the product in just the right way and providing the *right* information to the *right* group of potential users at the *right* time.  &#8230;and we weren&#8217;t it, but we&#8217;re willing to help.  Honestly, how many other conference planners would have provided this forum for us?</p>
<p>Have to echo that Computers in Libraries and Internet Librarian are the best conferences that I go to.  The content is always fresh, relevant and exciting; nowhere else can I go to connect with so many like minds.  This year&#8217;s CiL was simply amazing for me.  Kudos to Jane Dysart and her crew for another stellar event, soup to nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: Meredith Farkas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meredith Farkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 02:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldn&#039;t agree more, Karen! Their conferences are consistently among the best for librarians at all interested in technology and I&#039;ve always been impressed by their efforts to make changes based on our feedback. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t agree more, Karen! Their conferences are consistently among the best for librarians at all interested in technology and I&#8217;ve always been impressed by their efforts to make changes based on our feedback. <img src='http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: K.G. Schneider</title>
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		<dc:creator>K.G. Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Setting aside SWIFT (I was only there for 20 minutes, as I had to catch a flight, but in that time I didn&#039;t catch any vigilante vibe), I met with an ITI staffer to talk about how to approach new software development in the future. It&#039;s not easy to select new software and there are all kinds of confusing messages. But ITI puts on a damn fine show for librarians and if they need help we should give it to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Setting aside SWIFT (I was only there for 20 minutes, as I had to catch a flight, but in that time I didn&#8217;t catch any vigilante vibe), I met with an ITI staffer to talk about how to approach new software development in the future. It&#8217;s not easy to select new software and there are all kinds of confusing messages. But ITI puts on a damn fine show for librarians and if they need help we should give it to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Crossett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Crossett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your little feed digest example quite a lot, actually.  It seems to me that the number of bloggers at conferences, and the number of sessions that get blogged, is going up, and cherry-picking through the Technorati feed for CiL200X for the stuff you&#039;re interested in is kind of a pain.  Any attempt to do thematic aggregation is going to require a fair amount of work by someone, but as an infrequent conference goer who likes to read up on some of the sessions, I find it valuable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your little feed digest example quite a lot, actually.  It seems to me that the number of bloggers at conferences, and the number of sessions that get blogged, is going up, and cherry-picking through the Technorati feed for CiL200X for the stuff you&#8217;re interested in is kind of a pain.  Any attempt to do thematic aggregation is going to require a fair amount of work by someone, but as an infrequent conference goer who likes to read up on some of the sessions, I find it valuable.</p>
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		<title>By: Meredith Farkas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meredith Farkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can definitely understand your frustration, Steve, especially with Kathleen leaving us with the question &quot;is this better than all of the other methods of collaboration we currently have?&quot; Clearly the answer was no and she kind of set herself up for a beating. I would have asked instead &quot;how can we make this better?&quot; 

I like your idea! Not sure I could architect it, but it is a neat idea. And Steven Cohen would certainly be one of the top keywords. That and &quot;hoochie coochie.&quot; Yeah, it would be like Flickr&#039;s hot tags feature.

Jeff, I totally agree that sometimes ideas should be killed and that this is probably one of them. I also agree that librarians tend to be demanding. There&#039;s nothing wrong with demanding better products, but people will listen much better to criticism when it comes from a constructive place rather than a place of anger. Sometimes, librarians come at vendors in a state of extreme frustration and with few suggestions as to how to make it better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can definitely understand your frustration, Steve, especially with Kathleen leaving us with the question &#8220;is this better than all of the other methods of collaboration we currently have?&#8221; Clearly the answer was no and she kind of set herself up for a beating. I would have asked instead &#8220;how can we make this better?&#8221; </p>
<p>I like your idea! Not sure I could architect it, but it is a neat idea. And Steven Cohen would certainly be one of the top keywords. That and &#8220;hoochie coochie.&#8221; Yeah, it would be like Flickr&#8217;s hot tags feature.</p>
<p>Jeff, I totally agree that sometimes ideas should be killed and that this is probably one of them. I also agree that librarians tend to be demanding. There&#8217;s nothing wrong with demanding better products, but people will listen much better to criticism when it comes from a constructive place rather than a place of anger. Sometimes, librarians come at vendors in a state of extreme frustration and with few suggestions as to how to make it better.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lawson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Lawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, Kathleen can feel better by soaking up the anti-Flickr-video drama in the meantime. Flickr has to deal with cranks, too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, Kathleen can feel better by soaking up the anti-Flickr-video drama in the meantime. Flickr has to deal with cranks, too!</p>
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