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		<title>By: Cliff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 13:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Meredith Farkas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meredith Farkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 21:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for explaining this, Sue. I also hope he decides to go because I think it will be good for his career.

I think one way of preventing frustration on the part of speakers is to make it clear to speakers that they will have to pay registration before they apply to speak. I looked all over for that information and didn&#039;t find it anywhere on the CLA  website or the site where people are supposed to have submitted proposals. Other associations (Arizona Library Assoc. comes to mind) make these things very clear, and thus, you know what you&#039;re getting into when you choose to submit a proposal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for explaining this, Sue. I also hope he decides to go because I think it will be good for his career.</p>
<p>I think one way of preventing frustration on the part of speakers is to make it clear to speakers that they will have to pay registration before they apply to speak. I looked all over for that information and didn&#8217;t find it anywhere on the CLA  website or the site where people are supposed to have submitted proposals. Other associations (Arizona Library Assoc. comes to mind) make these things very clear, and thus, you know what you&#8217;re getting into when you choose to submit a proposal.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 19:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to chime in on this discussion, as I provide staff support to our conference and I am familar with the budget and the program content. 

The California Library Association, like all membership associations, is run by its members for the benefit of the members, and in our case because we are a non-profit, also for the benefit of greater library community in California. If it were possible for CLA to offer free one day or full registration to our presenters, we certainly would.  However, out of our 1200-1500 attendees each year, 300+ of them present at one of our 90 breakout sessions.  These presenters constitute approximately 25% of our attendee costs.  Our member/leaders have chosen to deeply discount conference registration for students, support staff, retirees and members who are unemployed.  Registration fees barely cover the out of pocket costs of the keynote and invited speakers, convention center rental, the water coolers in the convention center hallways, printing, internet access, etc.  We keep our registration rates low by asking our exhibitors and sponsors to help support the association, and they do, which is how our conference generates revenue for some of our other programs and member services. 

Being chosen to speak at CLA means someone has undergone a rigorous peer review process by 12-15 library staff from a variety of library settings.  We accept not quite 40% of the proposals we receive each year.  

Meredith, we hope your friend decides to present at this year’s conference.  The exposure, the networking, and learning opportunities will be well worth his attendance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to chime in on this discussion, as I provide staff support to our conference and I am familar with the budget and the program content. </p>
<p>The California Library Association, like all membership associations, is run by its members for the benefit of the members, and in our case because we are a non-profit, also for the benefit of greater library community in California. If it were possible for CLA to offer free one day or full registration to our presenters, we certainly would.  However, out of our 1200-1500 attendees each year, 300+ of them present at one of our 90 breakout sessions.  These presenters constitute approximately 25% of our attendee costs.  Our member/leaders have chosen to deeply discount conference registration for students, support staff, retirees and members who are unemployed.  Registration fees barely cover the out of pocket costs of the keynote and invited speakers, convention center rental, the water coolers in the convention center hallways, printing, internet access, etc.  We keep our registration rates low by asking our exhibitors and sponsors to help support the association, and they do, which is how our conference generates revenue for some of our other programs and member services. </p>
<p>Being chosen to speak at CLA means someone has undergone a rigorous peer review process by 12-15 library staff from a variety of library settings.  We accept not quite 40% of the proposals we receive each year.  </p>
<p>Meredith, we hope your friend decides to present at this year’s conference.  The exposure, the networking, and learning opportunities will be well worth his attendance.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 14:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is quite sad. But not quite unusual as I see it. Conferences might be gaining in the elite side of aspects. Librarianship is a field that embraces all, but pays piddens.  

I wonder if it is worth inquiring to your friend if the conference he got invited to speak at, has a speaker budget? 

From what I know of my own state association, all the roundtables, and sections have a small budget set aside for speakers. They would have a small budget to provide for the speaker&#039;s travel expenses, but everything else is outside of the speaker&#039;s own pocket. 

If your friend wants to be a speaker, then he would have to probably only be at that one event and then leave. No over night stay needed. That&#039;s the strategy I also noted when my professor and former classmate was invited to speak at the conference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is quite sad. But not quite unusual as I see it. Conferences might be gaining in the elite side of aspects. Librarianship is a field that embraces all, but pays piddens.  </p>
<p>I wonder if it is worth inquiring to your friend if the conference he got invited to speak at, has a speaker budget? </p>
<p>From what I know of my own state association, all the roundtables, and sections have a small budget set aside for speakers. They would have a small budget to provide for the speaker&#8217;s travel expenses, but everything else is outside of the speaker&#8217;s own pocket. </p>
<p>If your friend wants to be a speaker, then he would have to probably only be at that one event and then leave. No over night stay needed. That&#8217;s the strategy I also noted when my professor and former classmate was invited to speak at the conference.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 21:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &#039;bouncers&#039; check to see if you HAVE a badge, but they don&#039;t actually run the thing through a spectrometer or anything. Attach a lot of ribbons (or &#039;conference lettuce,&#039; as we call it) and stride confidently forth. Worst case, you&#039;ll spend the night in the librarian association pokey, and that&#039;s where the best parties are, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8216;bouncers&#8217; check to see if you HAVE a badge, but they don&#8217;t actually run the thing through a spectrometer or anything. Attach a lot of ribbons (or &#8216;conference lettuce,&#8217; as we call it) and stride confidently forth. Worst case, you&#8217;ll spend the night in the librarian association pokey, and that&#8217;s where the best parties are, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Libby the Librarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Libby the Librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 18:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A colleague and I saw an advertisement from our state library federation, pleading with people to submit speaking proposals.  We decided we would do so, and were very excited at the prospect.  However, due to the library funding crisis in Indiana, our library won&#039;t have the funding to reimburse us for expenses.  When we found out that we would have to pay registration fees to attend the state conference, even for just the one day we were speaking, we simply could not afford the trip.  Now we understand why they are having trouble attracting enough speakers...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A colleague and I saw an advertisement from our state library federation, pleading with people to submit speaking proposals.  We decided we would do so, and were very excited at the prospect.  However, due to the library funding crisis in Indiana, our library won&#8217;t have the funding to reimburse us for expenses.  When we found out that we would have to pay registration fees to attend the state conference, even for just the one day we were speaking, we simply could not afford the trip.  Now we understand why they are having trouble attracting enough speakers&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Sauers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Sauers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 18:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I come back from a two-day trip which included a speaking gig and I hear Meridith&#039;s mentioning me in her blog comments and that THIS topic has reared it&#039;s ugly head again. Well, I just printed out the 15-pages that all this takes up, read every word of it, and don&#039;t have much to add other than the share my general policy on this issue. And, it is thus:

* If it&#039;s a gig in Nebraska I do it for free and I&#039;ve never been asked to pay for getting in and/r MPOW covers all costs. Hey, that&#039;s my job. It&#039;s what I signed up for.

* If it&#039;s out of state and I submitted a proposal then I expect that I, or MPOW, will need to cover travel expenses. Unless the boss insists I won&#039;t do it if they&#039;re going to charge me or MPOW to just get into the conference. I don&#039;t believe that speakers should ever be charged to present.

* If the conference organizers contacted me and requested that I come to speak (outside of NE) then I have my usual rate that I quote them which involves a fee for speaking and ALL travel expenses. (I even prefer that they book the flight and hotel so as to minimize the reimbursement amount.)

There are however exceptions. The first week of June I&#039;ll be speaking at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nlj.org.jm/acuril/ACURIL08.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ACURIL&lt;/a&gt; conference in Jamaica. They asked me but were clear that they could not pay expenses but that I would be comped the registration fee. What, I was going to say no to that trip? ;-)

I don&#039;t exactly consider myself one of the &quot;great library speakers&quot; (there I going being a modest librarian) but I do accept that I&#039;ve earned the right to not only get in for free but in other cases be directly compensated for my efforts. I have turned down invitations in which I had to pay just to get in (in fact, I think I was one of the first bibliobloggers to complain about LITA and this exact topic several years ago) but luckily that doesn&#039;t happen too often.

As for the mailing list for writers, it still technically exists but no one ever really used it. If someone starts a wiki for conferences count me in. I&#039;ll just admit I&#039;m too busy to start it myself at this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I come back from a two-day trip which included a speaking gig and I hear Meridith&#8217;s mentioning me in her blog comments and that THIS topic has reared it&#8217;s ugly head again. Well, I just printed out the 15-pages that all this takes up, read every word of it, and don&#8217;t have much to add other than the share my general policy on this issue. And, it is thus:</p>
<p>* If it&#8217;s a gig in Nebraska I do it for free and I&#8217;ve never been asked to pay for getting in and/r MPOW covers all costs. Hey, that&#8217;s my job. It&#8217;s what I signed up for.</p>
<p>* If it&#8217;s out of state and I submitted a proposal then I expect that I, or MPOW, will need to cover travel expenses. Unless the boss insists I won&#8217;t do it if they&#8217;re going to charge me or MPOW to just get into the conference. I don&#8217;t believe that speakers should ever be charged to present.</p>
<p>* If the conference organizers contacted me and requested that I come to speak (outside of NE) then I have my usual rate that I quote them which involves a fee for speaking and ALL travel expenses. (I even prefer that they book the flight and hotel so as to minimize the reimbursement amount.)</p>
<p>There are however exceptions. The first week of June I&#8217;ll be speaking at the <a href="http://www.nlj.org.jm/acuril/ACURIL08.htm" rel="nofollow">ACURIL</a> conference in Jamaica. They asked me but were clear that they could not pay expenses but that I would be comped the registration fee. What, I was going to say no to that trip? <img src='http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t exactly consider myself one of the &#8220;great library speakers&#8221; (there I going being a modest librarian) but I do accept that I&#8217;ve earned the right to not only get in for free but in other cases be directly compensated for my efforts. I have turned down invitations in which I had to pay just to get in (in fact, I think I was one of the first bibliobloggers to complain about LITA and this exact topic several years ago) but luckily that doesn&#8217;t happen too often.</p>
<p>As for the mailing list for writers, it still technically exists but no one ever really used it. If someone starts a wiki for conferences count me in. I&#8217;ll just admit I&#8217;m too busy to start it myself at this time.</p>
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		<title>By: Antsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 13:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being THAT PERSON who skips from session to session in search of inspiring speakers and topics, I must note that most conference presenters i have seen could summarize their contribution in 5 minutes or less, some in a couple of sentences...I would like to see conferences screen presenters for quality and content instead of accepting whoever can afford to be present. The best conferences I have attended were carefully planned 1-day events. 3-day conferences are not worth the expense! Big event = need more presenters = bigger overhead = less money for speakers. Anonymous Discouraged Speaker, cultivate smaller organizations and conferences in your region.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being THAT PERSON who skips from session to session in search of inspiring speakers and topics, I must note that most conference presenters i have seen could summarize their contribution in 5 minutes or less, some in a couple of sentences&#8230;I would like to see conferences screen presenters for quality and content instead of accepting whoever can afford to be present. The best conferences I have attended were carefully planned 1-day events. 3-day conferences are not worth the expense! Big event = need more presenters = bigger overhead = less money for speakers. Anonymous Discouraged Speaker, cultivate smaller organizations and conferences in your region.</p>
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		<title>By: Didi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Didi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 13:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is the only option for giving speakers free registration to raise the registration fee for everyone else? How many of these conferences include an exhibits area? Raise the fees for the vendors. Better yet, ask the vendors to sponsor a morning/afternoon/full day of speakers. They get some good PR for covering the registration fees of the speakers, and the speakers catch a break. Win win for all involved.

Why are we as a profession so afraid to ask these vendors to support us every once in a while (god knows we spend enough money supporting THEM)?? And why is it that more often than not our solutions to helping one librarian is to kick another? I understand that that most of the library associations are not for profit - so make use of those associated with us who are. You&#039;d be surprised what might happen if you just ask. I&#039;ve been to lots of small conferences that were supported by a number of big name library vendors which payed for the food/refreshments and other conference-related things which helped to keep the registration costs down for all attending. I don&#039;t understand why this can&#039;t be part of the solution to covering fees (maybe even some travel costs!) for speakers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is the only option for giving speakers free registration to raise the registration fee for everyone else? How many of these conferences include an exhibits area? Raise the fees for the vendors. Better yet, ask the vendors to sponsor a morning/afternoon/full day of speakers. They get some good PR for covering the registration fees of the speakers, and the speakers catch a break. Win win for all involved.</p>
<p>Why are we as a profession so afraid to ask these vendors to support us every once in a while (god knows we spend enough money supporting THEM)?? And why is it that more often than not our solutions to helping one librarian is to kick another? I understand that that most of the library associations are not for profit &#8211; so make use of those associated with us who are. You&#8217;d be surprised what might happen if you just ask. I&#8217;ve been to lots of small conferences that were supported by a number of big name library vendors which payed for the food/refreshments and other conference-related things which helped to keep the registration costs down for all attending. I don&#8217;t understand why this can&#8217;t be part of the solution to covering fees (maybe even some travel costs!) for speakers.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Snyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 12:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a relatively new librarian (2 years). After attending some useless conference sessions and several useless online classes, I know I have a lot to offer the profession. I want to get involved nationally, but I just can&#039;t afford it. Librarianship is a notoriously low-paying profession, and my current job is well below the national starting salary (but it&#039;s a great job). By the time I&#039;m done paying my bare-bones bills (including the 20% of my salary that goes towards paying my MLS student loans each month) and contribute a small percentage towards retirement, I have nothing left. It&#039;s a shame that many newbie librarians will permanently give up getting involved because of money.

I would like to highlight one point in this conversation that haven&#039;t gotten enough attention. Meredith suggested offering free registration ***for the day***, not necessarily for the whole conference. That makes a difference when you&#039;re talking about other people covering registration fees of speakers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a relatively new librarian (2 years). After attending some useless conference sessions and several useless online classes, I know I have a lot to offer the profession. I want to get involved nationally, but I just can&#8217;t afford it. Librarianship is a notoriously low-paying profession, and my current job is well below the national starting salary (but it&#8217;s a great job). By the time I&#8217;m done paying my bare-bones bills (including the 20% of my salary that goes towards paying my MLS student loans each month) and contribute a small percentage towards retirement, I have nothing left. It&#8217;s a shame that many newbie librarians will permanently give up getting involved because of money.</p>
<p>I would like to highlight one point in this conversation that haven&#8217;t gotten enough attention. Meredith suggested offering free registration ***for the day***, not necessarily for the whole conference. That makes a difference when you&#8217;re talking about other people covering registration fees of speakers.</p>
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