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		<title>By: oelibrarian</title>
		<link>http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/2009/06/26/answers-and-i-thought-that-was-our-schtick/comment-page-1/#comment-187553</link>
		<dc:creator>oelibrarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe we need to pool our resources and create a series of commericals that we can run nationally that would rival companies like kgb.  

Yeah, I know, but I figured I would throw the idea out there anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe we need to pool our resources and create a series of commericals that we can run nationally that would rival companies like kgb.  </p>
<p>Yeah, I know, but I figured I would throw the idea out there anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: caleb again again</title>
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		<dc:creator>caleb again again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dorothea can you say what you mean by  &quot;books are a terrible brand for libraries&quot;? I&#039;m not disagreeing, I&#039;m just interested in the reasoning. Perhaps there is a conversation or article I&#039;m missing? 

Otherwise, we at least make a haiku out of that:

books are wonderful
and a poor library brand
no contradiction

Partly, I think you could say what I said above, that the role of books is changing. But you could also say it&#039;s a poor brand because if people think of books when they think of libraries, it doesn&#039;t go the other way that they think of libraries when they think of books. Does *anything* make people think of libraries? Not trivia questions. 

So, like I said, I&#039;m interested to know what you mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dorothea can you say what you mean by  &#8220;books are a terrible brand for libraries&#8221;? I&#8217;m not disagreeing, I&#8217;m just interested in the reasoning. Perhaps there is a conversation or article I&#8217;m missing? </p>
<p>Otherwise, we at least make a haiku out of that:</p>
<p>books are wonderful<br />
and a poor library brand<br />
no contradiction</p>
<p>Partly, I think you could say what I said above, that the role of books is changing. But you could also say it&#8217;s a poor brand because if people think of books when they think of libraries, it doesn&#8217;t go the other way that they think of libraries when they think of books. Does *anything* make people think of libraries? Not trivia questions. </p>
<p>So, like I said, I&#8217;m interested to know what you mean.</p>
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		<title>By: Dorothea Salo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorothea Salo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Books are wonderful.

Books are a terrible brand for libraries.

These two positions are not incompatible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Books are wonderful.</p>
<p>Books are a terrible brand for libraries.</p>
<p>These two positions are not incompatible.</p>
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		<title>By: Toni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure that kgb and ChaCha can teach us anything new, but they definitely remind us that today&#039;s patrons want near-instant assistance.

Some libraries enhance their reference availability by participating in shared reference with other libraries. I&#039;ve never worked in a library that participated in such an arrangement, but we should all do our best to be responsive to our patrons.

When I worked at Norwich, I was really proud of how quickly we responded to virtual reference questions. We checked email and Meebo every day (including weekends). I liked seeing that our colleagues would even reply to lengthy or complicated questions with a quick note saying &quot;Got your message, I&#039;ll look for some information and be in touch.&quot; Responding promptly to our patrons&#039; questions is a pretty simple way to keep our them happy and coming back for more.

(I&#039;ll admit: once I knew I wasn&#039;t going to return to work after kiddo was born, I toyed with the idea of becoming a ChaCha Guide or kgb Agent during my extended leave from librarianship. While I&#039;m home with Jacey, why not help settle bar bets, send driving directions, and relay weather reports in 140 characters or less? Earn Mama some spending money one dime at a time.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure that kgb and ChaCha can teach us anything new, but they definitely remind us that today&#8217;s patrons want near-instant assistance.</p>
<p>Some libraries enhance their reference availability by participating in shared reference with other libraries. I&#8217;ve never worked in a library that participated in such an arrangement, but we should all do our best to be responsive to our patrons.</p>
<p>When I worked at Norwich, I was really proud of how quickly we responded to virtual reference questions. We checked email and Meebo every day (including weekends). I liked seeing that our colleagues would even reply to lengthy or complicated questions with a quick note saying &#8220;Got your message, I&#8217;ll look for some information and be in touch.&#8221; Responding promptly to our patrons&#8217; questions is a pretty simple way to keep our them happy and coming back for more.</p>
<p>(I&#8217;ll admit: once I knew I wasn&#8217;t going to return to work after kiddo was born, I toyed with the idea of becoming a ChaCha Guide or kgb Agent during my extended leave from librarianship. While I&#8217;m home with Jacey, why not help settle bar bets, send driving directions, and relay weather reports in 140 characters or less? Earn Mama some spending money one dime at a time.)</p>
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		<title>By: katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have my MLS, &amp; i&#039;ve been working for chacha for about 9 months. it&#039;s fun. it&#039;s not all bar bets, although it is a lot times. but sometimes it is helping people with actual information needs. it can be sex ed-type questions from teens. sometimes it is &quot;if my computer is doing x does it mean i have a virus.&quot; sometimes it is directions or phone numbers or &quot;what does poison ivy look like?&quot; 

anyway, i think that chacha has done a really good job of building an audience &amp; getting people&#039;s trust even though there are occasionally some reeeally bad answers. people use it for any question that can be answered in 140 characters. or just to kill time (chacha is free, ad-supported). 

i don&#039;t see it as having that much overlap with what a library does, or what people look for from a library. absolutely, you can call a library &amp; ask them sports trivia. but i think that most people choose not to bug librarians for stuff like that. i think they save the serious stuff for libraries. which, is that really such a bad thing? obviously at a reference desk you don&#039;t distinguish between which questions are worth your time or not, so isn&#039;t it good that patrons decide on their own? 

i have told chacha info-seekers to go to a library for certain questions. like legal information, for example, that depends on their location, and it&#039;s complex &amp; better answered in person &amp; without a character limit. 

i think the main reason it&#039;s not feasible for libraries to provide a similar service is that kgb &amp; chacha are nationwide. libraries are local, and even a state-wide effort might not get enough questions to keep people busy 24/7.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have my MLS, &amp; i&#8217;ve been working for chacha for about 9 months. it&#8217;s fun. it&#8217;s not all bar bets, although it is a lot times. but sometimes it is helping people with actual information needs. it can be sex ed-type questions from teens. sometimes it is &#8220;if my computer is doing x does it mean i have a virus.&#8221; sometimes it is directions or phone numbers or &#8220;what does poison ivy look like?&#8221; </p>
<p>anyway, i think that chacha has done a really good job of building an audience &amp; getting people&#8217;s trust even though there are occasionally some reeeally bad answers. people use it for any question that can be answered in 140 characters. or just to kill time (chacha is free, ad-supported). </p>
<p>i don&#8217;t see it as having that much overlap with what a library does, or what people look for from a library. absolutely, you can call a library &amp; ask them sports trivia. but i think that most people choose not to bug librarians for stuff like that. i think they save the serious stuff for libraries. which, is that really such a bad thing? obviously at a reference desk you don&#8217;t distinguish between which questions are worth your time or not, so isn&#8217;t it good that patrons decide on their own? </p>
<p>i have told chacha info-seekers to go to a library for certain questions. like legal information, for example, that depends on their location, and it&#8217;s complex &amp; better answered in person &amp; without a character limit. </p>
<p>i think the main reason it&#8217;s not feasible for libraries to provide a similar service is that kgb &amp; chacha are nationwide. libraries are local, and even a state-wide effort might not get enough questions to keep people busy 24/7.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Meredith - we are trying to start something like that with InfoQuest - http://myinfoquest.info.  We have over 40 libraries participating now and are hoping for more so eventually we will have 24/7.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Meredith &#8211; we are trying to start something like that with InfoQuest &#8211; <a href="http://myinfoquest.info" rel="nofollow">http://myinfoquest.info</a>.  We have over 40 libraries participating now and are hoping for more so eventually we will have 24/7.  <img src='http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: chforging</title>
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		<dc:creator>chforging</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulation you become a mother. I am simliar with you,however most of my reading books from internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulation you become a mother. I am simliar with you,however most of my reading books from internet.</p>
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		<title>By: caleb again</title>
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		<dc:creator>caleb again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 06:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;soapbox&gt;
Wait a minute, what&#039;s wrong with books? The brand has lost its allure to who? If your library doesn&#039;t have books, you&#039;re doing it wrong. And if you do have books and you don&#039;t call it a library, you&#039;re even further off course. Do you know what they call an academic institution without a library full of books? The University of Phoenix. 

The point of OCLC&#039;s report on the library brand wasn&#039;t that the brand needs to change, but that we need to use what we&#039;ve got to get what we want. Leverage what we have to serve our communities. 

True, books represent &quot;the old way of doing things&quot;, your parents generation and the bourgeois cultural elite. But they also symbolize literacy, education, and self-achievement. Books are awesome.

So even if you, like me, recognize that the role of books in academia and in world culture at large is changing rapidly, you have got to come up with a better plan than settling bar bets. Meredith is on the right track - lets get together and do something cool. But please, don&#039;t let it involve sending text messages to drunk people. 
&lt;soapbox/&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&lt;soapbox&gt;<br />
Wait a minute, what&#8217;s wrong with books? The brand has lost its allure to who? If your library doesn&#8217;t have books, you&#8217;re doing it wrong. And if you do have books and you don&#8217;t call it a library, you&#8217;re even further off course. Do you know what they call an academic institution without a library full of books? The University of Phoenix. </p>
<p>The point of OCLC&#8217;s report on the library brand wasn&#8217;t that the brand needs to change, but that we need to use what we&#8217;ve got to get what we want. Leverage what we have to serve our communities. </p>
<p>True, books represent &#8220;the old way of doing things&#8221;, your parents generation and the bourgeois cultural elite. But they also symbolize literacy, education, and self-achievement. Books are awesome.</p>
<p>So even if you, like me, recognize that the role of books in academia and in world culture at large is changing rapidly, you have got to come up with a better plan than settling bar bets. Meredith is on the right track &#8211; lets get together and do something cool. But please, don&#8217;t let it involve sending text messages to drunk people.<br />
&lt;soapbox/&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps it&#039;s also BECAUSE we offer it for free that people don&#039;t come to us for information.  If it&#039;s free, it can&#039;t be good.

Actually, I think the big problem is what buddhabrarian said:  &quot;we have yet to successfully re-brand ourselves&quot;.  Honestly, I don&#039;t think we ever branded ourselves in the first place.  We were branded by time and society.  &quot;We&quot; had nothing to do with it.  &quot;We&quot; don&#039;t tend to market ourselves well if at all.  In fact, there is very often too little &quot;we&quot; working together.  Think of all the librarians and libraries in North American, if not the entire world, that could easily be working together (at least easier than almost all other organizations), bringing much more force behind our acquisitions, our technological efforts and of course our marketing schemes.  But no, we work virtually alone, and the occasional librarian or library that makes an effort does not have the money or the resources or the time to compete will all the others vying for attention.  Can&#039;t we even have an infomercial on at 2:30 in the morning?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s also BECAUSE we offer it for free that people don&#8217;t come to us for information.  If it&#8217;s free, it can&#8217;t be good.</p>
<p>Actually, I think the big problem is what buddhabrarian said:  &#8220;we have yet to successfully re-brand ourselves&#8221;.  Honestly, I don&#8217;t think we ever branded ourselves in the first place.  We were branded by time and society.  &#8220;We&#8221; had nothing to do with it.  &#8220;We&#8221; don&#8217;t tend to market ourselves well if at all.  In fact, there is very often too little &#8220;we&#8221; working together.  Think of all the librarians and libraries in North American, if not the entire world, that could easily be working together (at least easier than almost all other organizations), bringing much more force behind our acquisitions, our technological efforts and of course our marketing schemes.  But no, we work virtually alone, and the occasional librarian or library that makes an effort does not have the money or the resources or the time to compete will all the others vying for attention.  Can&#8217;t we even have an infomercial on at 2:30 in the morning?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Karlsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Karlsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However redundant the service might be, you&#039;ve gotta give these guys credit for acquiring the kgb.com domain and giving a new meaning to the term &quot;KGB agent&quot;. I&#039;m not sure why they don&#039;t play that up in the site design or the ads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However redundant the service might be, you&#8217;ve gotta give these guys credit for acquiring the kgb.com domain and giving a new meaning to the term &#8220;KGB agent&#8221;. I&#8217;m not sure why they don&#8217;t play that up in the site design or the ads.</p>
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