Comments on: Do you link to Harvard Business Review from EBSCO? http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/2009/06/26/do-you-link-to-harvard-business-review-from-ebsco/ A librarian, writer and educator reflecting on the profession and the tools we use to serve our patrons Mon, 06 Feb 2012 09:11:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: Select » Blog Archive » Harvard business publishing http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/2009/06/26/do-you-link-to-harvard-business-review-from-ebsco/comment-page-1/#comment-190607 Select » Blog Archive » Harvard business publishing Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:28:57 +0000 http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/?p=1178#comment-190607 [...] Do you link to Harvard Business Review from EBSCO? | Information … Jun 26, 2009 … Paul Pival wrote today and yesterday about “mafia tactics by Harvard Business School Publishing”, … [...] [...] Do you link to Harvard Business Review from EBSCO? | Information … Jun 26, 2009 … Paul Pival wrote today and yesterday about “mafia tactics by Harvard Business School Publishing”, … [...]

]]> By: Keith Webster http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/2009/06/26/do-you-link-to-harvard-business-review-from-ebsco/comment-page-1/#comment-187565 Keith Webster Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:02:55 +0000 http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/?p=1178#comment-187565 We had to cope with this last year - we removed a number of links to HBR articles. I was more troubled by the insistence from Ebsco that they were blameless - yet they promote actively their monopoly role as online distributor of HBR. I would have thought that Ebsco could have been more active in representing their customers but they seemed disinclined to do so. This seems a surprising attitude from anyone selling "stuff" in these days of constraint. I have been sorely tempted to cancel the whole Ebsco package (which we take mainly for HBR). We have been able to rely upon provisions in the Australian higher education sector copyright licence. That licence allows us to scan and make available to course students scanned articles taken from our print collection - we still maintain several subs to HBR. At least we have been able to maintain convenience for our student community. But I find the attitude from Ebsco and HBR perplexing. We had to cope with this last year – we removed a number of links to HBR articles. I was more troubled by the insistence from Ebsco that they were blameless – yet they promote actively their monopoly role as online distributor of HBR. I would have thought that Ebsco could have been more active in representing their customers but they seemed disinclined to do so. This seems a surprising attitude from anyone selling “stuff” in these days of constraint. I have been sorely tempted to cancel the whole Ebsco package (which we take mainly for HBR). We have been able to rely upon provisions in the Australian higher education sector copyright licence. That licence allows us to scan and make available to course students scanned articles taken from our print collection – we still maintain several subs to HBR. At least we have been able to maintain convenience for our student community. But I find the attitude from Ebsco and HBR perplexing.

]]> By: Matthew Thomas http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/2009/06/26/do-you-link-to-harvard-business-review-from-ebsco/comment-page-1/#comment-187526 Matthew Thomas Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:20:51 +0000 http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/?p=1178#comment-187526 This is crazy. I don't know if my institution pays for this but you're absolutely right... this is not really appropriate. Of course, when I read your quoted "use restrictions", the first thing that came to my mind is that there is a huge gap between legally dictated usage and actual intended usage. Saying that it "is not intended for use as assigned course material in academic institutions" and that it "is licensed for... private individual use" is ludicrous. They are well aware that it is being sold to academic institutions not for individual use, and almost guaranteed to be "incorporated into course resources" in some way. Perhaps they don't believe that their content is acceptable as educational material? Or at least that content filtered through EBSCOhost. Well, that could only mean that the content is different... Is EBSCOhost altering their content? All sarcasm aside, regardless of how essential they are, the more barriers they put up to usage, the more damage they are doing to themselves. Do they really think that keeping their content out of the classroom will help them keep their status? With this generation of students? Good luck HBR! This is crazy. I don’t know if my institution pays for this but you’re absolutely right… this is not really appropriate.

Of course, when I read your quoted “use restrictions”, the first thing that came to my mind is that there is a huge gap between legally dictated usage and actual intended usage. Saying that it “is not intended for use as assigned course material in academic institutions” and that it “is licensed for… private individual use” is ludicrous. They are well aware that it is being sold to academic institutions not for individual use, and almost guaranteed to be “incorporated into course resources” in some way.

Perhaps they don’t believe that their content is acceptable as educational material? Or at least that content filtered through EBSCOhost. Well, that could only mean that the content is different… Is EBSCOhost altering their content? All sarcasm aside, regardless of how essential they are, the more barriers they put up to usage, the more damage they are doing to themselves. Do they really think that keeping their content out of the classroom will help them keep their status? With this generation of students? Good luck HBR!

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