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		<title>Comment on 31 Day Comment Challenge: Days 8-11 by Mark K.</title>
		<link>http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/index.php/2008/05/10/31-day-comment-challenge-days-8-11/#comment-185326</link>
		<author>Mark K.</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 15:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I harp on the libraries that don’t allow comments b/c they are cutting the communication off at the post."

Alas, some of us work at libraries where the marketing department decides what our comment policy will be, instead of the librarians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I harp on the libraries that don’t allow comments b/c they are cutting the communication off at the post.&#8221;</p>
<p>Alas, some of us work at libraries where the marketing department decides what our comment policy will be, instead of the librarians.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 31 Day Comment Challenge: Days 8-11 by Sameer Vasta</title>
		<link>http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/index.php/2008/05/10/31-day-comment-challenge-days-8-11/#comment-185323</link>
		<author>Sameer Vasta</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 10:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meredith,

Thanks for the link. Just thought I'd give you some context as to my thoughts revolving around trackbacks and pingbacks.

After blogging for over nine years, sometimes you need to re-evaluate things. Part of the reason I stopped allowing comments is because I was around when trackbacks and pingbacks were still nascent technologies and were promising big changes in web conversation. They didn't really end up doing everything we all had hoped them to do, but it was worth trying it out at the time.

I do, now, offer commenting on my blog, but we'll see where that goes once new tools and new ideas keep coming up in the web world. That is, in fact, the power of the blog, right? To adapt and change as necessary?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meredith,</p>
<p>Thanks for the link. Just thought I&#8217;d give you some context as to my thoughts revolving around trackbacks and pingbacks.</p>
<p>After blogging for over nine years, sometimes you need to re-evaluate things. Part of the reason I stopped allowing comments is because I was around when trackbacks and pingbacks were still nascent technologies and were promising big changes in web conversation. They didn&#8217;t really end up doing everything we all had hoped them to do, but it was worth trying it out at the time.</p>
<p>I do, now, offer commenting on my blog, but we&#8217;ll see where that goes once new tools and new ideas keep coming up in the web world. That is, in fact, the power of the blog, right? To adapt and change as necessary?</p>
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		<title>Comment on 31 Day Comment Challenge: Days 8-11 by Meredith Farkas</title>
		<link>http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/index.php/2008/05/10/31-day-comment-challenge-days-8-11/#comment-185313</link>
		<author>Meredith Farkas</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 22:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I think it's a blog regardless of whether it accepts comments open or not (or doesn't get comments even though they are open). Blogs are a lot of things to a lot of people, and I think giving it a narrow definition would discount the great variety of blogs out there.

I don't know why people feel the need to have such strict definitions for such fuzzy things in the first place. I find it a good thing that blogs can take so many different shapes and fill so many different needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I think it&#8217;s a blog regardless of whether it accepts comments open or not (or doesn&#8217;t get comments even though they are open). Blogs are a lot of things to a lot of people, and I think giving it a narrow definition would discount the great variety of blogs out there.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why people feel the need to have such strict definitions for such fuzzy things in the first place. I find it a good thing that blogs can take so many different shapes and fill so many different needs.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 31 Day Comment Challenge: Days 8-11 by walt crawford</title>
		<link>http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/index.php/2008/05/10/31-day-comment-challenge-days-8-11/#comment-185308</link>
		<author>walt crawford</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 21:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/index.php/2008/05/10/31-day-comment-challenge-days-8-11/#comment-185308</guid>
		<description>Besides, Dorothea, I don't have another absolutely 100% perfect counterexample for the idiot idea that "if it doesn't accept comments it isn't a blog."

(No, I'm not arguing with your decisions re commenting--you've explained them well, not that you need to. I'm just sayin': If CavLec isn't a blog, and a damn fine one, I don't know what is...)

Yes, I did use just that example, over at Open stacks. SO not directly participating in this ongoing exercise, though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides, Dorothea, I don&#8217;t have another absolutely 100% perfect counterexample for the idiot idea that &#8220;if it doesn&#8217;t accept comments it isn&#8217;t a blog.&#8221;</p>
<p>(No, I&#8217;m not arguing with your decisions re commenting&#8211;you&#8217;ve explained them well, not that you need to. I&#8217;m just sayin&#8217;: If CavLec isn&#8217;t a blog, and a damn fine one, I don&#8217;t know what is&#8230;)</p>
<p>Yes, I did use just that example, over at Open stacks. SO not directly participating in this ongoing exercise, though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on 31 Day Comment Challenge: Days 8-11 by Dorothea Salo</title>
		<link>http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/index.php/2008/05/10/31-day-comment-challenge-days-8-11/#comment-185291</link>
		<author>Dorothea Salo</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 01:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/index.php/2008/05/10/31-day-comment-challenge-days-8-11/#comment-185291</guid>
		<description>Well, "afraid" isn't the same thing as "irrationally afraid." Consider some of the stuff I've written about the experience of women in general and me in particular with IT. You remember the Kathy Sierra debacle. You tell me what kind of reaction I can expect.

That's exactly the kind of thing I desperately don't want to deal with. It isn't the likes of YOU I'm walling off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, &#8220;afraid&#8221; isn&#8217;t the same thing as &#8220;irrationally afraid.&#8221; Consider some of the stuff I&#8217;ve written about the experience of women in general and me in particular with IT. You remember the Kathy Sierra debacle. You tell me what kind of reaction I can expect.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s exactly the kind of thing I desperately don&#8217;t want to deal with. It isn&#8217;t the likes of YOU I&#8217;m walling off.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 31 Day Comment Challenge: Days 8-11 by Meredith Farkas</title>
		<link>http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/index.php/2008/05/10/31-day-comment-challenge-days-8-11/#comment-185288</link>
		<author>Meredith Farkas</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 23:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/index.php/2008/05/10/31-day-comment-challenge-days-8-11/#comment-185288</guid>
		<description>Yeah, I can understand that, Dorothea. I totally respect your choice, but there are times when I SO want to just comment on one of your posts and it drives me bonkers that I can't. I can't imagine you fitting into category 3; controlling I can see... afraid, not so much. 

Yes, a lot of libraries have that feeling too. Even those of us who have comments do exert some control. I'm starting to be more willing to delete comments that are nasty or offensive, because it's just not the sort of environment I want to encourage here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I can understand that, Dorothea. I totally respect your choice, but there are times when I SO want to just comment on one of your posts and it drives me bonkers that I can&#8217;t. I can&#8217;t imagine you fitting into category 3; controlling I can see&#8230; afraid, not so much. </p>
<p>Yes, a lot of libraries have that feeling too. Even those of us who have comments do exert some control. I&#8217;m starting to be more willing to delete comments that are nasty or offensive, because it&#8217;s just not the sort of environment I want to encourage here.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 31 Day Comment Challenge: Days 8-11 by Dorothea Salo</title>
		<link>http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/index.php/2008/05/10/31-day-comment-challenge-days-8-11/#comment-185285</link>
		<author>Dorothea Salo</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 22:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/index.php/2008/05/10/31-day-comment-challenge-days-8-11/#comment-185285</guid>
		<description>Possibility 4: people who are kinda control-freak about THEIR SPACE, even on the freewheeling Internet.

I make no bones about fitting into categories 2, 3, and especially 4. I've sometimes considered hanging a BBS off the blog as an ersatz comment system, but I haven't found an easy way to hook that up yet.

What that would do, though, is put the discussion in a separate space. My blog is MINE. MINE SPACE. I get, you know, territorial and stuff about it. :) As I think some libraries do theirs as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Possibility 4: people who are kinda control-freak about THEIR SPACE, even on the freewheeling Internet.</p>
<p>I make no bones about fitting into categories 2, 3, and especially 4. I&#8217;ve sometimes considered hanging a BBS off the blog as an ersatz comment system, but I haven&#8217;t found an easy way to hook that up yet.</p>
<p>What that would do, though, is put the discussion in a separate space. My blog is MINE. MINE SPACE. I get, you know, territorial and stuff about it. <img src='http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> As I think some libraries do theirs as well.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 31 Day Comment Challenge: Days 8-11 by maggie</title>
		<link>http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/index.php/2008/05/10/31-day-comment-challenge-days-8-11/#comment-185284</link>
		<author>maggie</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 21:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I harp on the libraries that don't allow comments b/c they are cutting the communication off at the post.  The bloggie world is used to commenting on comments, now. The blog takes on a life of its own when merely left alone.  It is also one of those unspoken rules that if your comment will be longer than a couple of short paragraghs, write a post and give a link back to the originator. But you knew that, I'm just reinforcing this post! ;D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I harp on the libraries that don&#8217;t allow comments b/c they are cutting the communication off at the post.  The bloggie world is used to commenting on comments, now. The blog takes on a life of its own when merely left alone.  It is also one of those unspoken rules that if your comment will be longer than a couple of short paragraghs, write a post and give a link back to the originator. But you knew that, I&#8217;m just reinforcing this post! ;D</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is this how we encourage people to contribute? by Meredith Farkas</title>
		<link>http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/index.php/2008/05/05/is-this-how-we-encourage-people-to-contribute/#comment-185270</link>
		<author>Meredith Farkas</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 21:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/index.php/2008/05/05/is-this-how-we-encourage-people-to-contribute/#comment-185270</guid>
		<description>Thanks for explaining this, Sue. I also hope he decides to go because I think it will be good for his career.

I think one way of preventing frustration on the part of speakers is to make it clear to speakers that they will have to pay registration before they apply to speak. I looked all over for that information and didn't find it anywhere on the CLA  website or the site where people are supposed to have submitted proposals. Other associations (Arizona Library Assoc. comes to mind) make these things very clear, and thus, you know what you're getting into when you choose to submit a proposal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for explaining this, Sue. I also hope he decides to go because I think it will be good for his career.</p>
<p>I think one way of preventing frustration on the part of speakers is to make it clear to speakers that they will have to pay registration before they apply to speak. I looked all over for that information and didn&#8217;t find it anywhere on the CLA  website or the site where people are supposed to have submitted proposals. Other associations (Arizona Library Assoc. comes to mind) make these things very clear, and thus, you know what you&#8217;re getting into when you choose to submit a proposal.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is this how we encourage people to contribute? by Sue</title>
		<link>http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/index.php/2008/05/05/is-this-how-we-encourage-people-to-contribute/#comment-185265</link>
		<author>Sue</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 19:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd like to chime in on this discussion, as I provide staff support to our conference and I am familar with the budget and the program content. 

The California Library Association, like all membership associations, is run by its members for the benefit of the members, and in our case because we are a non-profit, also for the benefit of greater library community in California. If it were possible for CLA to offer free one day or full registration to our presenters, we certainly would.  However, out of our 1200-1500 attendees each year, 300+ of them present at one of our 90 breakout sessions.  These presenters constitute approximately 25% of our attendee costs.  Our member/leaders have chosen to deeply discount conference registration for students, support staff, retirees and members who are unemployed.  Registration fees barely cover the out of pocket costs of the keynote and invited speakers, convention center rental, the water coolers in the convention center hallways, printing, internet access, etc.  We keep our registration rates low by asking our exhibitors and sponsors to help support the association, and they do, which is how our conference generates revenue for some of our other programs and member services. 

Being chosen to speak at CLA means someone has undergone a rigorous peer review process by 12-15 library staff from a variety of library settings.  We accept not quite 40% of the proposals we receive each year.  

Meredith, we hope your friend decides to present at this year’s conference.  The exposure, the networking, and learning opportunities will be well worth his attendance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to chime in on this discussion, as I provide staff support to our conference and I am familar with the budget and the program content. </p>
<p>The California Library Association, like all membership associations, is run by its members for the benefit of the members, and in our case because we are a non-profit, also for the benefit of greater library community in California. If it were possible for CLA to offer free one day or full registration to our presenters, we certainly would.  However, out of our 1200-1500 attendees each year, 300+ of them present at one of our 90 breakout sessions.  These presenters constitute approximately 25% of our attendee costs.  Our member/leaders have chosen to deeply discount conference registration for students, support staff, retirees and members who are unemployed.  Registration fees barely cover the out of pocket costs of the keynote and invited speakers, convention center rental, the water coolers in the convention center hallways, printing, internet access, etc.  We keep our registration rates low by asking our exhibitors and sponsors to help support the association, and they do, which is how our conference generates revenue for some of our other programs and member services. </p>
<p>Being chosen to speak at CLA means someone has undergone a rigorous peer review process by 12-15 library staff from a variety of library settings.  We accept not quite 40% of the proposals we receive each year.  </p>
<p>Meredith, we hope your friend decides to present at this year’s conference.  The exposure, the networking, and learning opportunities will be well worth his attendance.</p>
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